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Mary Porter
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2/12/2013 5:21 PM
we are step and grade and allow employees to change positions in between pay periods, and we have a two week pay cycle. So let's say the employee worked for the first week in old position 1 at old position 1's pay rate, and worked the second week in new position 1 with new position 1's pay rate. When we change the employee's position record effective the second week, any time records that come in regardless of position code default to the new position 1 pay rate. So we have been creating a second position with old position 1's payrate so that the first week's time records will come in at the right pay rate. Then we end that second position when the payroll is over.
Is there a better way to handle this?
Margie Gyurisin
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2/12/2013 6:52 PM
You may try to make adjustments to the schedule rule on the PA06. We are looking at adjusting ours to be a "2" instead of a "1" for that reason. We have decided that a "3" will not work for us.
Mary Porter
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2/12/2013 8:46 PM
our schedule rule is already at a 2. I don't think 3 worked for us either. I can play around with this though and see what happens.
We are also testing changing the Process Level, Department rule to a 2 (currently it's 3) with hopes that it will fix our issue with deductions splitting
between process levels.
Karen Ploof
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2/13/2013 4:38 AM
Hi Mary,
When the two time records are created, are all the other fields from the prior position (accounting unit/account, location, etc) correct - it's just the rate of pay that's wrong?
The situation you're describing doesn't seem to be related to the PA06 rules - I believe they only come into play when an employee has more than 1 concurrent position. In your case, the employee really only has one position, you are "faking" a second to get the rate correct.
Would you please check the job code form (HR05? I think that's the form) for a field that's something like "allow pay at lower rate"? If it's not set correctly, the time record will always use the current (usually higher) rate.
Karen
stephanie
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2/13/2013 1:34 PM
A little late to the party - what dates are you using on your time records? Step and grades can some times work unexpectedly, but we have a population here that is on that type schedule, and our position rules have rates default from all positions. As long as you have time record dates that refelct the appropriate work period, the rate should default without having to add or re-open positions. We're monthly, and generally have 1 time record for the full month - I just ran a quick test to make sure I'm not a liar, and I entered 2 time records - each for a half month and time record dates based on my position history - and the rates default correctly. So, if you're bi-weekly, you'd need two 40 hour/regular work week time records with period end dates and it should work as you expect.
Mary Porter
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2/13/2013 3:18 PM
we couldn't set the rate to default from all positions because we had problems with alternate positions - and the fact that we have employees that float to other departments in their alternate positions. I'll test that though when we are testing another change to position defaulting. thanks for the help!
I saw in another post that you might have made a custom calculation for a 457f/403b match issue - was that what you were talking about?
Mary Porter
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2/13/2013 3:22 PM
Karen - our hr06 is currently set to Allow Pay Below Normal Rate on all of our positions
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