Patient Charge System (PC) in Lawson

We only use PC10 for the EAPs from Epic. Corporate Finance was given rights to the screen and maintains it, but sends me uploads for more than 10 changes. We only populate EAP and Lawson Item - no markups or pricing.

The table is used by Epic's HB, Optime and soon Radiant and Cupid to associate the EAP with the supply item and the various queries calculate markups and case costing based on Lawson pricing. We had a similar use with PICIS.

No other PC screens used at this time.

Do you know if it can be used to send supply cost data to a patient charge system like McKesson or Craneware by tying a CDM to the Lawson item?

Yes. Populating PC10 will put the CDM with the supply cost from IC12 onto IC527 and the other HL7 output reports. We don't have McKesson or Craneware, but if the output is there, I can't imagine they wouldn't see it.

There's also PC08 where the actual cost could be built either based on supply cost or as a flat inputted cost, but we never did anything with that screen.

PS Don't have rights to IC527, but IT needed to know which RevCenter I had created to make the IC527 tie the PC10 rev center to the IC12 location/group. You can have multiple rev centers with one lawson number across them.  So if McKesson and Craneware have different CDMs, you would create two rev centers and could have the same items appear in both with different CDM.

However you cannot assign a Lawson number to two different CDMs within the same rev center.

How do you tie the rev center to a specific location? I don't see the connection in PC10. Unfortunately, today (and this is probably the case for many health systems) we have different CDMs at different hsopitals for the same procedure/item.

This is done in your interface. Take a look at Lawson IC525, IC526 and IC527 and you will see the connection. Also PC120 has the revenue center.

Yes, it's on the interface job that you populate which locations and which Rev Centers.

Another quirk is that despite the select value button - there's no place to add a list of Rev Centers. To create a rev center called EPIC, I would go to PC10, Fill in Company, Rev Center as Epic and then FC=A and fill in the first cdm and lawson number. Then Click Add.

That adds Epic as a rev center. All other lines then use the standard FC=A header action = Change format that the rest of inventory does.

And the last gotcha is that you cannot change the CDM. You have to delete it and then add it back in with the corrected value. There is an upload format that I got from Bob Cveykus @ Wisconsin Valley Health Network that we use for mass changes - you have to additionally map the HLD-CHARGE-NBR1 and HLD-ITEM1 do get the FC D (Delete) to work.

Got it. Thaks for all the info Kat and Mike. Very helpful.

One limitation of PC10 is the 10 char CDM number, and you cannot add additional attributes such as a description. But the PC10 / IC527 relationship is handy. You could always add an attribute and accomplish the same thing, or use both in combination.