Identifying managers for loadusers self-service portal role

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Barb
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    I am working to automate the initial "loadusers" user load and maintain it on a daily basis (using input from Lawson HR and Lawson RM).  I will have two portal roles, one for manager self-service and the other for employee self-service.  I have recently learned that some non-managers will be using manager self-service (e.g. Executive secretaries, Administrative staff).  Has anyone automated their user RM maintenance, and if so, how do you identify which employees get MSS versus ESS?

    MattM
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      You will have to isolate an attribute that all users share in each group. This may not work with your one offs. What do you mean by automate?
      Barb
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        HI Matt,  Thanks for your reply.  I was wondering how other clients identify who gets MSS versus ESS - by the employee's HR11 job class, or because their position is on HR07 (supervisor table), or whatever.

        Regarding automating this:  I have a daily ProcessFlow extract from HR and from LSA/RM.  I'm writing an application that compares the employees on HR to the RMID's in LSA and building a "loaduser" XML file to add new RMID's, inactive terminated RMID's, or make any necessary changes (name changes, people promoted from staff to management, etc.).  I then plan to automate the daily running of the loadusers command using the XML file built by this application.  I'm a new client - is this pretty typical of what people do to automatically maintain their RMID's for self-service?

        John Henley
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          I personally recommend the supervisor (HR07/HRSUPER) approach, since that is how MSS works. Your approach for automating this is valid -- do you own ProcessFlow Integrator?

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          Barb
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            Great! Good point, thanks for the confirmation - I will use HR07/HRSuper. I'm thinking that if I also extract the Supervisor and Indirect Supervisor position numbers from the Employee HR11, then I can limit my MSS people to only those who actually have direct reports.
            Yes, I have ProcessFlow Integrator. Although I've had no training at all, I'm getting pretty good at writing flows using the time honored trial-and-error method (to create extract/interface files to feed data to other systems). My only trouble is creating the WebSphere type trees and maps. I don't know how to create those (usually I just copy an existing one and edit it for some other purpose, but that's a pretty inefficient way to do it). I hope to get some training someday, but for the foreseeable future am buried and can't take the time (for Lawson there is just me besides a very-part-time SysAdmin).
            John Henley
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              You probably don't need any typetrees for this project...you can use ResourceQuery, ResourceUpdate, and DME/Query nodes to extract and update the relevant information.

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